My grandfather, however, was pretty close to rail skinny and hadterrible gout in the days before allopurinol. He was skinny when hewas stricken at about the age of 50 when he weighed about 155 at 5′9″and from 50 years to 98 years old when he died, he had lost about 25pounds.

Gout is made worse by being overweight but it is not exclusively forthe overweight.

I’ve been on 200mg Allopurinol since June 2003 but recently stopped as Ihave one of the side effects (psoriasis-like patches on my left leg).Needless to say, I’ve not had an attack since I started on Allopurinol,and, so far, had an attack since I stopped taking the stuff about amonth ago.

I should add, following an earlier thread that I also take Atenolol forhigh-ish blood pressure. I only

I do want to add that I did lift for about 2 months consistantlysomewhere thru January and February of this year but decided toconcentrate primarily on aerobic exercises for weight reduction. Myprotien intake is considered “high” by the common non dieters. I am ona low carb diet(not Atkins, not South Beach but similar tweaked to mytastes), which I do consume high amounts of protein (again relative toopinion - to effectively body build I need even more). To my drawnout point(sorry) I did not see any unusual gains during the two months.

Actually I think I did come across something not long ago..I thinkit was related to damage caused by too LITTLE uric acid(m.setc.,)..I think that is what I banged into the Yahoo searchengine..it had to do with a comparison test where I think peopleexercised very hard/worked hard..and a control group tookallopurinol.Later on in the article/test there was a comparison tosteroids and claimed that allopurinol was FAR superior in muscleregeneration/recovery from breakdown..It didn’t say anything aboutusing allopurinol AND steroids..

I practically never clean out my computer..I’ll go see if it’sstill there bro..

I had NO idea that this was such a HUGE topic..go to Yahoo..typein allopurinol for athletes..I started to read a few..BUT theyquickly got WAY too complicated for me..

Figgers..athletes HAVE and WILL use ANY means at theirdisposal..that is UNTIL it gets banned..THEN they busy themslevestrying to figure a way around it.AS EVERYONE is watching one..or afew oh so bad drugs..that is OLD SCHOOL.The “new drugs” are beingdeveloped/used BEFORE..they have even gotten around to figuring thatthey too need to be banned..

Heat tolerance cold very well be related to endurance sports whereexcessive heat, or tolerance to it, is important, like for example inthe Honolulu marathon.

When I started lifting regularly but not heavily I wasn’t sore at alland I know that this doesn’t mean your not getting an effective workoutso I didn’t pay it any attention. As I became more familiar with theweights again (over 7 years not lifting) I started to push myself.Still not sore. I’m thinking that this is really odd. Next time Icompletely blast myself doing heavy weights 6 to 10 reps and 6-8 SETS!FINALLY the next day I’m mildly sore?? When I was 22-24 yrs old Iwould return from the gym hurting for days on one muscle. Granted Iover weightlifted and didn’t know it but a good 3 set with 8 reps atheavy weight got me nice and sore.

So now I find this also true with skating…blast my legs every time Igo, slight soreness, if at all, the next day and good to go.

Great…now allopurinol will jump from $7-10/mo to $30/mo and become acontrolled substance.

Oh well…that will be controlled substances I’ll be on then!

Anyway..in 1987 Olympic drug testers discoverred that athleteswewre taking another gout drug..probencid..Now probenicid helps ridsthe body of uric acid..BUT it ALSO ..drastically slows down theelimination of steroids..to the point where they can’t be detectedfor a few days.Needless to say..it gets on the banned list.

Then the athletes hit the old allopurinol..it speeds up theelimination of steroids.Needless to say again..both of these arebanned as “masking agents”

There was some interesting stuff on allopurinol also slowing downthe production of creatinine.

My question is HOW am I going to compete in the Olympics if Ican’t take my “performance(WALKING ENABLING)enhancing drugs..”

Anyway..sure gets back/ends up at the root cause of gout..theintrinsic(excess) production of uric acid(for THAT individual)because of cell breakdown/death(which allopurinol THEN begins tocontrol)

Oh yeah..I think the soreness is in relation to the bodiesinability to dispose of the remnants of cell breakdown/death..whichwe know is(ends up) partly as uric acid..AND lactic acid.We also knowthat the body deals with lactic acid first..

I’ll keep posting, so progress can be tracked.