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Dietary influences; females and gout.

As to coping with the diet…Purine content of foods plays a very slight rolein your levels. Fluid intake and allopurinol willplay a greater role.

As to females:A pre-menopausal female usually will not getgout, but this is merely the statistics. YOU arenot a statistic.

The usual confirmatory test is a bichromaticanalysis of aspirated synovial fluid from theaffected joint.

Was there suffed onset?At night?Initially painful that even a bedsheet wasintolerable?

Tell me of a doctor who know what causes gout,or has cured someone

I will shut up.Your body has lost the ability to excrete excess uricacid.Maybe it is a detox issue . Liver and kidneys not functioningproperly. Why are you guys so bitter. I tell of something that worksfor me and try to pass on the info.I get slammed and ridiculed.Ifyou want me to leave the group I will.You should be glad for me Ihope you find your cure

Get some new shoes!!

I feel this needs to be stressed again.The importance of gettingnew shoes..ESPECIALLY when finally doing something about gout..i/ehopping the “A” train. Uric acid deposits wreak havoc..interferring/restricting movementsof the bones/joints in the foot/lower leg/knee.. With the “A” drug..these deposits will leave/or want to.The boneswill want to realign/expand movement/stretch..

GIVE ‘EM THE CHANCE!..

High arch runners are the best..especially the high archsupport..taking some of the weight off the ball..allowing for morestretching of the foot.

Your old runners..yes parts of the support will already becompressed/worn to accomodate your old foot shape..I DOUBT whetherthey will return to normal..you need new ones.

DON’T bother with expensive ones..Cdn.price..big box stores..$15/$20..$30/$35 will put you into REAL good runners!..beware! the veryexpensive ones..they wear out FAST!

I would avoid the foot Dr’s..AND the supports..problem withgetting a hard orthototic..is sure they are good NOW..they won’t bewhen your foot reverts back to normal shape..these suckers are $400-$600 here..the cheaper compressible orthotics..ditto..sure they aregood now..but they won’t be at some point.

I have probablly 12 pairs of these around my house..in variousdegrees of support.I used to have to have several pair right besidemy bed..for a couple of years..stepping/standing/wallking on ANY hardsurface..barefoot..NO WAY!!..I’ld make my way to the kitchen..andmake a decison as to which other shoe I might need..on the fridge..SOMY dog can’t take them out and BURY THEM!(yes he has done that..NOTfound??)I had several other pairs on the fridge..varying degrees ofsupport..I would CONSTANTLY be wearing odd shoes..as my feet regainedtheir shape..some of the shoes I wore as I battled gout..AND thepronitits with it..getting on the “A” train..REALLY exacerbated!!!the pronitits…I can no longer wear them..

BUT!! I am 99.9% I get out of bed..and can be SHOE FREE!!.. F MAN..I VIVIDLY(TOO VIVIDLY!)..remember NOT being able to evenget out of bed for like about 2 years..WITHOUT putting my shoes onFIRST!..I kept the shoes under my bed/on my bed..tryYELLING/SCREAMING! at your 100 lb..rambunctious puppy dog..as hegrabs a shoe..and moves JUST far enough away from you..as he standsthere growling/shakes it in his mouth..flailing it/flinging it by thelaces..(YES I do even have a picture of the dog trying to get themOFF the fridge..

Gout is such a nice lovelly disease.. I really enjoy(d) it

This as I root around sort of looking for some seriouslly stiffhard ass/race/competition/UNCOMFORTABLE!.ski boots..

I thought those days MIGHT have been over..

“Welcome to the “A” train..have your tickets ready”

Uric acid levels

I’ve recently been diagnosed with gout after my first attack justbefore Christmas. On researching gout on the Internet I came acrossthis mailing list last week, and have been reading my way throughsome of the recent posts. It’s all very interesting stuff - much morethen you ever get from a hurried GP.

I’ve had two blood tests to measure my U/A levels, and they came backwith levels around 500 (micro mol / gram of blood if I remembercorrectly). Reading through the posts here people are talking aboutlevels between 4 and 5. Is this a different measure of u/a levels, ordifferent units, or something different all together?

Thanks if someone can help me with my newbie question

Humorous fungii

I know you have all said such things as trite, absurd,jackass and other such examples of civil discourse.

I have suggested a variety of fundamental causativeand contributing factors.

Each is supported by a considerable amount ofscientific evidence and is biologically plausible.None of this is equivalent to UFOs or Pyramids.

I’m not saying that any of it is proven conclusively,nor have I ever maintained that. I have exploredlogically relevant matters of causation andexacerbation.

Throughout history, prior to our knowledge ofmicrobiology, there were beliefs in an infectiousagent playing a role in gout.

I will admit that Pasturella Multocida and alsomycological influences are rarely identified in gout.Ofcourse, they are also rarely looked for in goutpatients too. Although rarely identified, it is notunknown and it is not in any way absurd. Fungaletiology has been addressed by a number ofresearchers, it has been published in medical journalsand presented at international conferences. If you donot want to believe in it, that is fine. I’ve postedabout these various additional factors to stimulatediscussion of the issues, but so far it seems to havemet only with ridicule despite the biologicalplausibility. I do not dispute your assertion that’mycological rhymes with illogical’. I do, however,dispute that the rhyming dictates the functionalrelationship.

Weight loss, carbohydrate rebound?

I do not remember if I had any sort of carbohydraterebound or not.

This would be true only if carbohydrates had an effecton purine excretion. I don’t think any has been provenyet.

I have a marked inability to sense ‘thirst’ or toreact to a sense of thirst.

I am most definitely in the USA. Most definitelydealing with a doctor who is hesitant to prescribe ANYmedication until another attack is suffered andhesitant to prescribe ANY medication in view of hisinability to successfully aspirate any synovial fluid.He is most particularly hestitant to prescribeAllopurinol.

Yes, perhaps so. Though I have always been a poorresponder to a sense of thirst.But the diet involved sausage and liverwurst and theseare high purine foods, so it could well be acombination of purine intake and failure to ‘wash out’with high water intake. Though I am most curious as tohow there could have been such a long time between theweight loss/ dietary purine increase and the onset ofsymptoms of gout.

Does medication really make a difference?

I hate taking medications, especially after taking Paxil and the sideaffects it gave me. I took Paxil for OCD, depresion and anxiety. The100 pounds I gained while on it and the flu like symptoms were theworst. I have now been diagnosed with gout and I’m trying to avoidmedications if I can, except my gout is getting worse. My question toeverybody here is if the medication has really made a difference andif it’s worth the side affects? How long have you been gout freesince beginning the medication?

Gout free

I’m happy to report that we are coming out of Winter and heading intospring and I haven’t had an attack yet. My first post introducingmyself a while back , I had stated that I have a real rough time duringthe winter months with gout, in fact I typically spend most of thewinter months limping around or out for a week to 3 weeks here andthere. Last winter I believe that I had 4 or 5 attacks throughout thewinter/spring season.

I have made some changes in my life primarily due to gout and the fearof getting diabetes (my mother has diabetes). The first was readingthrough some of the posts here. You definitely need to pick and choosewhich things seem to make sense. The most valuable data I got was fromArnold the skier and Walter(Thank you both). Accordingly, I got mydose of allopurinol increased from 100mg to 300mg daily. My doctoralso recommended the South Beach Diet - which is a low carb diet thatis focused on the glycemic index. Also from the posts I have read, Icompletely ignored these so called “low/high purine food” lists as wellas all the other “snake oils”(A multi-vitamin and my allopurinol is allI take now). My diet is higher in protein as compared to beforedieting but much lower in saturated fats. In addition, I’ve alsostarted exercising. Lifting weights and cardio. Cardio about 4-5times a week.

Results: I’ve lost 20lbs in the 4 weeks I’ve been on the diet and Ispent this past weekend, both Saturday and Sunday, ice skating. Howwonderful it is to exercise without the fear of retaliation. Myankles(typically my gout spots) have been sore a few times afterintense exercise and I thought I would get an attack like I normally dothe following day, but nothing ever came. I haven’t had an attack inmonths - not since I’ve increased my dosage of allopurinol as a matterof fact.

I haven’t had a blood test done in a couple months but I plan to havethat done in the next couple weeks. I will post the before and afterresults.

Doctors!

I went to a podiatristyesterday & he’s pretty sure I have a stress fracture which justdidn’t show up in the first x-ray that they took at the bone & jointclinic. I willl have another x-rray today to see if it shows up. Ifnot, then it’s most likely tendonitis, which will be treated the sameway as a fracture. I will be in a boot cast for 6-8 weeks.

I had a feeling all along that it wasn’t gout & in the the back of mymind I kept thinking it felt like something broken. The first doc.said I would know how I broke it if it was. The new doc. said a lotof people don’t know when they have a stress fracture. Anyway, I’mglad I followed my instincts & got a 2nd opinion instead of goingthru a bone scan & who knows what else. I’m ticked at doc. #1!! He’sa bone & joint specialist for crying out loud!! I could’ve beenhalfway heeled by now. Oh well, I’m glad it’s not gout. And at leasstI’ve become educated on gout if I or someone I know ever gets it.

Heavy metal toxic?

Because I am considered somewhat of a village idiot at this group,but I do have one thing my doctors dont “Gout”.I have suspected thatmy childs autism is linked to thimerosal in vaccines,(so do manyothers )coupled with other variables have left her unable to processcertain protiens that act as opiates on her brain. A vicious cycle ofexcretion (of heavy metals ,, lead , mercury,, arsenic )and themal-absorption(if that is correct) of nutrients to further the bodiesefficiancy keep her from getting well.My wife and I have seenimprovements since she is seeing a DAN Doctor(Defeat Autism Now )Mainstream medicine doesnt acknowledge ,, but there are thousands whodo parent doctors of autistic kids know that it is “Heavy Metaltoxcidity” that is the cause . My kids have had hair samples testedand they are loaded with it ,,all 3 metals . where did they get it ?I suspected I was also toxic too,, So after a 24 hr urine test Ifind my arsenic levels were high,,, Lead 0 and Mercury 0,,I thoughtthis was a inconclusive test because of handling and after readingAndrew Hall Cutlers book “Amalgam Illness”stating merc or lead mightnot show up unless DMSA challenge test was taken to mobilize themetal,,,,THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS TO DO BECAUSE MERCURY CAN MOVE TOTHE BRAIN,,,I am seeing the enviromental Doc tom>Also in Cutlers book top of the list in Lead poisoning symptoms IsGOUT,, I strongly feel my amalgams (fillings in my teeth made of 50to 70 percent mercury) are causing me many other symptoms. The fact Ihave been exposed all my life to lead at work and other toxins andhave 10 amalgams and work with arsenic treated wood all the timemakes me feel there is a cause to this .read all you can aboutmercury and how its slowly accumulating in us and killing us . I planto have my fillings replaced with composites and chelate mysystem,,after i read so many stories of success and feeling relief indays .. check it out,, get a hair sample done ,, its tough to get aDR. to even listen,, read “Mercury Free” by Dr James Hardy,, AmalgamIllness by Andrew Hall Cutler. I am still not on colchicine orallopurinol,, I still take my herbals and Chanca and lots ofantioxidants ,, I feel like crap mood swings anxiety joint painangry but when I get them out (fillings ) I am convinced this willchange Wish me luck and check it out for your selves. Post whateveryou feel but dont keep anyone else from healing themselves sayingprescriptions are the only way ok .. Go to safeminds.org

Let you know how I feel,, My antioxidant level is too low to removemy fillings for 2 months but I cant wait to feel better

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