Archive for April, 2007

Purne list

Sorry. Hopefully this link will work

www.britishdalmatianclub.org.uk/downloads/Purine%20Table%202003.htm

Also, i have been on colchicine for a over a week now. I am juststarting to walk on my foot now but my big toe is still swollen andi can not bend it as normal.Should i start the Allopurinol now or wait till the big toe hasreturned to normal size. (There is no pain in the big toe now)

Running or hard walking

Anyone out there runners?…..With gout is hard feet exercises now not feasible? I trying to get more work out on my treadmill but it seems like I have a few good day then a bad day. Is the jarring in the feet causing attacks?

Knees

I have had gout attacks for 9 years. I did not know what washappening and was not diagnosed till 2 weeks ago, when a joint fluidtest came back positive. (Told the doctors a couple of years ago thatI thought it could be gout, but they refused to treat me for the goutbecause they had done the fluid test before and got no crystals.)Right now I am having a major problem because the attacks fill myknees with fluid and I am stuck in bed for a week or more. Once theknees no longer are red and warm I can have the fluid sucked out, andget back on my feet fairly soon. The problem now is the reluctance ofmy doctors to do this. I would do it myself if I could get my handson a 20 gauge syringe (just kidding, kind of). Any suggestions? I wasput on 300mg of Allopurinol and hope it does the trick.

Any med with less side effects than allopurinol?

just started a week ago on the allopurinol and am in worse pain thanbefore I was on the med.

anyone try something other than allopurinol with better results? oris allopurinol the best out there for now?

Sodium, caffeine

Isolated chocolate and caffiene as problems for me years ago…onlyrecently discovered that hard excercise was problamatical. Have beenwondering about a sodium connection; I dont drink soda but eat lotsof salty pasta. After all, with our diets, what else is there? I amfascinated by Barry’s post - but dont understand how if uric acid isbeing neutralized, it can still be a problem. Also, what is Bilberryjuice? I used to use cherries, but they were a complete failure thisseason. Anyone know the chemistry behind that? Same for theproponent of vinegar. Cant see why I want more acids going in,curious if anyone can explain that one. Anyone know generally howlong it takes the crystals to dissolve once they find a home in ourjoints? Feels like about a month, but curious if any data. Anyfoods, drugs etc to speed the dissolving? Sorry for the length ofthe post - hadnt had an attack in quite a while but this summer’s waslengthy, and a biggie. PS. Vioxx is sure a lot more pleasant thanthe stomach killer, Indocin.

A firkin fact

Did you know that only ONE in FIVE gout sufferers modify theirlifestyle - diet, exercise, etc.?

Pretty alarming hey?

Detox uric accid

I have just been in Scandinavia and heard about a new product called SimplyDetox. This is a foot patch, which applied to the sole of the foot duringthe night seems to drain out toxins of the body.URIC ACCID is one of theaccids proven to be drained out. It stimulates the reflex points at the sametime. There seems to be a lot of gout in scandinavia, so hope they are rightabout this Simply Detox. Til now I only found their websitewww.simplydetox.co.uk and was interrested in getting information from otherpeople about this product.

Gc

Anybody has any input/info on GC(Gour Cure) product?

Stress and other factors leading to gout

I had my first attack in late 96 aged 42 - we had just moved house,in the middle of christmas etc and I was about to start a new job inthe middle east. All pretty stressful and then I dropped somethingon my toe!

At first I thought it was just bruising (probably was at first) butafter 3-4 days of increasing pain I thought I must have brokensomething. Went for x-rays and was diagnosed with gout. Unlike someothers here, my doctor immediately recommended Allopurinol as a longterm preventative but I cried off, suggesting I would control itthrough diet etc.

Just over a year later I had a recurrence - during Ramadan in themid-east when out of respect for colleagues I was also fastingduring the day which meant no water either. Almost certainly downto dehydration and I resolved to make sure never to suffer from thisagain.

Interestingly enough, on both occasions I was given a short courseof allopurinol to alleviate the condition although I now understandthis is no longer the practice (both attacks went within 3-5 days ofallopurinol and diclofenac).

Shortly after that last attack I got chatting to someone who hadsuffered badly in the past but who hadn’t had an attack in 10years or more. He reckoned by far the biggest cause was stress andthat if you can manage the stress in your life you will manage thegout at the same time. Sometimes easier said than done but withsome positive stress management and watching my hydration levels Ihave managed to go 6 years without an attack. Occasionally I felt atwinge in my toe and immediately drank 3-4 litres of water, findingit just went away.

Another stressful period arrived this Easter and I was off-guard alittle. Funnily enough I had had a blood test undertaken just 3weeks earlier when my UA reading was 4.7 and I agreed with my doctorthat losing some weight would probably resolve this and be generallygood for my health in other ways.

I had a hectic weekend just before Easter, and had friends round theSaturday evening with maybe a little too much wine and a fairly richdiet - all on top of a wedding luncheon earlier in the day.Interestingly, we had a Morrocan dish which contained quite a lot ofsaffron (more on that later).

Next day I could feel the gout coming and I probably was a littledehydrated from the previous day’s excesses so I followed theusual routine of drinking copious amounts of water but otherwise nomedication. The “Mini-attack” lasted perhaps a day this time- much longer than previously - but still went away completelywithout treatment. Later the same week and atypically I had arisotto alla Milanese (containing Saffron) and then on the Thursdaywe had the same dish I had prepared the previous Saturday, back bypopular request.

I had relatively little alcohol this time but on Friday I was inagony. Good Friday of course so all I had available was ibuprofenand the standard dose didn’t seem to do much. Naturally I wasalso drinking 5-6 litres of water daily. I saw the doctor Saturdaymorning and he suggested carrying on what I was doing but resting itmore.

It just got worse the next few days and by Tuesday I couldn’tvisit the doctor I was in so much pain but spoke over the phone andmy wife picked up the diclofenac they prescribed (75mg twicedaily). This started to ease it but at night time it was much worseand Wednesday evening was so bad I doubled the dose (which did thetrick) and hobbled into the doctor Thursday morning. He agreed tome keeping to this increased dosage for a few days and thankfully itis now going away.

In researching the possible triggers it occurred to me that thesaffron might be a factor, although I had never seen it mentionedanywhere in relation to gout. A linked search actually indicatedthat it is considered as a counter to the disease rather than acause and my doctor felt sure it was just coincidence. On the otherhand, if allopurinol is a preventative but can also induce theillness, why can’t saffron have the same effect? I am also prettysure I will have eaten plenty of saffron flavoured foods duringRamadan at the time of my previous attack, as the post-fast banquetscan be pretty lavish (but no alcohol as this was Saudi Arabia).

Where does all this leave me? Still unsure about taking allopurinoldespite the strong arguments made for it in this forum. If I watchmy hydration levels and lose weight steadily and improve my fitnessthen I reckon a natural approach has to be the preferred route. Iwould be interested to hear reports of the UA monitor device’seffectiveness as this would be a useful tool to make sure that I ammaking progress, if it can be relied upon. Meanwhile I will alsowatch the saffron intake and make sure it is an occasional treatrather than a regular part of my diet.

Rid of gout

I have always been overweight, since i wasa little kid, and I first got gout at 17 (and 17 stone), when i wentto the docs thinking i’d broken my toe. was diagnosed with gout afterblood tests. this was through excessive drinking, rather than beinginherited, i think. Since then, I have had occasional attacks,especially when i was 19-21 yrs old (and weighted 21 stone) and hadto completely stop drinking for nine months.

Now, i’ve lost 5 stone (am 16 st now), and i only ever get gout thatlasts for a day or so, rather than a couple of weeks. the reasoni’vedecided to join the list? i’ve just spent the last weekrecovering from a rather bad attack, which i think was brought on byantibiotics i had to take after having a wisdom tooth removed (notbeing able to eat OR walk is fun fun fun, let me tell you!), and thisattack has lasted for ten days now, andf thats with anti goutantibiotics!

what i want to know is has anyone managed to get rid of gout througheveryday substances. i find the advice from doctors to “stay awayfrom rhubarb, port and liver” a little python-esque to be takenseriously :) - also, does anyone have friends that take the mickeyout of them for having gout??? my friends are merciless!!!!

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